Mike Long: It's so important, and I say that I'm projecting it onto other people, I know. But, as I learned this material, it was, again, just such a revelation for me to see that when you talk about love, you're talking about two very different things. You're talking about the romantic phase, the passionate phase, and then you're talking about the companion phase. And there are those of us who never escape the romantic phase, which sounds kind of exciting until you think about what that really means. So, the question is, is it ethically permissible to pull the switch to save five lives at the expense of one? Daniel Lieberman: Now he sees the pebble, and instead of metaphorically speaking to him, it's really speaking to him. Instead of revealing divinity of the world, it reveals the fact that he himself is God. Now we've tipped over into mental illness, so having a lot of dopamine can be a very good thing — can be a very exciting thing. But, if you have too much, you get a break with reality.

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The right on the other side, they call themselves conservatives. They're much less interested in change. They’re much else interested in things that are new. They're more here and now. They want to preserve the things they valued that they've inherited from their forebearers. And so, they're much less likely to have active dopaminergic circuits.Mike Long: And so, that's, that's one step away from ink pen walk it to mommy. Well, that's a dog. And I bought sound? Yes.

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You listen to the song that was number one before “Good Vibrations” and then listen to “Good Vibrations.” The one before was a song called “Winchester Cathedral,” which was the epitome of grocery store music. Daniel Lieberman: And the irony is that when people do that, they talk about how much they enjoy it. And yet they do it so little because their dopamine circuits are saying don't waste your time. Work for more. Yeah, I mean, I guess what I’m just thinking about, you're saying it’s less about persuasion and, like try and bring someone to your side and more about some of the chemicals in our brains?Daniel Lieberman: Dopamine is a chemical in the brain. I like to think of it like the conductor of an orchestra. It turns on, turns off, turns up the volume — turns down the volume on a lot of different areas in the brain, and as a result, it has an outside, an outsized influence on our behavior.